Episode 28

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17th May 2023

Prof Jonathan Scourfield - Suicide, Social Work, and Masculinities

Suicide is a major health and wellbeing issue among men, with the UK suicide rate three times higher for men than women. There are clear links to issues of masculinity here, such as pressures on men to never show ‘weakness’ or emotion, or the idea that it is ‘unmanly’ to struggle with one’s mental health or experience failure. However, the situation is complex. Some groups of men are much more likely to take their own lives than others. The factors at play can vary substantially. And whilst they are less likely to die, women appear to be more likely to attempt to take their own lives and experience suicidal thoughts than men. Professor Jonathan Scourfield talks us through these complexities, and helps us to understand what masculinity has to do with suicide.

Towards the end of our conversation, we also talk about other significant aspects of Jonathan’s work in relation to engaging fathers, child welfare, and social work with men more generally. 

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Jonathan Scourfield is a Professor of Social Work in the School of Social Sciences at the University of Cardiff, Wales. He’s also a Deputy Director of CASCADE, the Children's Social Care Research and Development Centre. He has conducted an extensive body of research over his career on topics including child and family services, working with men, social work education, identity and religion in children, and suicide and self-harm. 

We cover the following topics in this episode:

  • How accurate it is so say that men are less inclined to seek help (01:23 - 05:38)
  • The range of factors which help to explain suicides among men (05:38 - 10:34)
  • The relevance of feminist theories such as 'hegemonic masculinity' to male suicide, including links with violence and abuse (10:34 - 15:47)
  • The influence of heteronormative pressures on men, and perceptions about mental illness (15:47 - 18:30)
  • Understanding differences in suicide rates among men based on age (18:30 - 22:43)
  • The impact of leaving the workforce on older men (22:43 - 25:03)
  • The role of poverty and economic/geographical inequalities, and how women’s suicides fit into the picture (25:03 - 28:54)
  • The preventative role of social networks, and the influence of gendered cultural scripts (28:54 - 34:26)
  • Pressures faced by families (34:26 - 36:54)
  • The role of the coroner's process (36:54 - 37:45)
  • Policy responses to male suicide in the UK, and what more needs to be done (37:45 - 42:15)
  • Jonathan’s research on engaging fathers in child welfare services (42:15 - 49:26)
  • Contrasts with the ways in which mothers are seen by social services (49:26 - 50:59)
  • The impact that feminism has had on Jonathan (50:59 - 54:13)
  • Recap: Changes in public discourses around men’s mental health, the importance of relationships, the significance of employment to men, prevention efforts, the impact of Covid-19 (54:13 - 01:00:45)

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Now and Men
Current conversations about men's lives
What's it like to be a man in the 21st century? How are feminist issues relevant to men and boys? How can we engage in productive conversations about gender equality? These questions are being discussed more than ever.

Our monthly podcast delves into these issues with experts such as practitioners, activists and academics. In each episode, you’ll hear in-depth conversations about a wide-range of topics connected to masculinity and the lives of men and boys, such as preventing gender-based violence, promoting active fatherhood, and supporting men's health.

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Stephen Burrell

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I am a Lecturer in Criminology at the University of Melbourne, Australia, where I moved to at the beginning of 2024. My research is about men, masculinities and violence. I am particularly interested in the prevention of men's violence against women, building gender equality, addressing environmental harm, and promoting an ethic of care among men and boys. In my spare time I'm a big fan of drinking tea, being in nature, eating vegan ice cream, and listening to heavy metal music. I'm also a trustee for White Ribbon UK.

Sandy Ruxton

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Honorary Research Fellow in the Department of Sociology at Durham University (UK). Independent researcher, expert on men and masculinities. Previous policy work on human rights, children and families, poverty and social exclusion, and asylum and migration. Programme experience with boys and young men in schools, community, and prisons. Steering Committee member, MenEngage Europe. Volunteer for OX4 Food Crew. Chess-player, bike-rider, tree-hugger. Great grandfather edited Boy's Own Paper, but was sacked.